No really ...... will the real Slim Shady ....... PLEASE stand up.......
Make yourself obvious......
Gimme a clue?
That's what was running as I woke up this morning....... AS I WOKE UP .... it's not enough I dream Genealogy ... nah.... I have to make it my constant thoughts.........
Even though I'm finding all sorts of amazing things on each sides of the families .... you run into that brick wall....... and slam, the door shuts......
Or you find hints with two different names...... was it Robert Warren or Richard Warren ..... ugh, so frustrating - because it MAKES a difference!!!
No no .... let me tell you the best one.
You are trying to find the parents for Hannah Monroe (I'm just making these up) ... she was born in 1521 .... and yet, the "hints" on other peoples family trees have her parents listed as Rose Hart born in 1854 and Richard Monroe born in 1892 ....... um, something doesn't make sense here (and they are NOT always that obvious!) ......
I mean really ........ is it that hard to realize that if the names are right, the years are wrong - or not put anything in there at all CUZ YOU JUST DON'T KNOW......
Sometimes I can be a happy clicker ... click click clicking away and I'm going back through the trees going ....... what the heck??? That doesn't make sense......... and 3000 years gets deleted because I see something that doesn't make sense and want to make sure things are right.
Genealogy is fun.......
Any family tree produces some lemons, some nuts and a few bad apples ...
It's always interesting to follow the branches....
Tuesday, May 15, 2012
Wednesday, May 9, 2012
Clarifying Email....
I got an email from my Grandfather's Sister's Daughter (did you follow that?) yesterday .... I had sent her an email asking her a bunch of things and this is what she sent me......
I'm going to type out the excerpt from the book that Kathern Thalacker
printed.
DESCENDANTS OF LOUIS THALACKER;
III2) Wilhelm (William) Fredriech Thalacker was born Jan 14,1882, in
the Town of Albany, Pepin Co WI. and died Nov 2, 1921, in Eau claire, WI. He
was a carpenter, and made his residence at Mondovi, WI. On Nov. 2 1905 he
married Hattie Gueldner; they had one daughter,1) Marion. Sometime later he and
hattie were divorced.
William was remarried at Wabasha, Mn, on July 29th 1919, to Olga
Johnson. Olga was born January 31,1900, in Buffalo Co. and died Nov 14, 1924, in
that county. When Olga was pregnant the second time she developed tuberculosis,
and when the baby was born she was not allowed to keep it. Because Olga and
William were both ill, William arranged for his stster Louise to adopt the baby.
Iver and Theodora Johnson, Olga's parents, raised the older child(Irene). Olga
married Palmer Larson in 1923, she died the following year from tuberculosis.
The children of William and Olga are 2) Irene, 3) Lawrence.
IV1) Marion Thalacker; B. Feb. 6th, 1908 in Eau Claire WI. Dies Aug.
11 1965 In Watsonville, CA. Married, Roy Harris, in Nebraska. They had no
children.
IV2) Irene Lucille Thalacker; B. Oct 13th, 1919, In Eau Claire, WI.
Married in Salinas, CA May 15th 1942 to Lawrence Raymond Crawford, B. 12/25/1915
in Mondovi, WI, d. Dec. 16/1996. They had 3 children, Raymond, Steven,
Terry.
It's nice to have that all cleared up :) Now I have to change the information on my tree :) And add a few things.....
Monday, May 7, 2012
more on.... Olga Johnson Thalacker Larson
So.... I don't know much about Olga. I wish there was more to know, really. I know she was born in Mondovi (Buffalo County) Wisconsin on January 31, 1900.
Olga is the little girl in the middle infront of her homestead with: her father, Iver Johnson (Iver Janson Veum), her brother: Albert Johnson, and on the other side of her, mother, Theodora (Christopherson) Johnson, and sister Mabel (Johnson) Uschan in front of their house that use to be on their farmin Mondovi, WI.
I know she and my Great Grandfather, William Thalacker, married July 19, 1919 ... only a few months before baby Irene came into the world on October 13, 1919. (Shotgun-Wedding anyone?)
I know that at some point both her and my G-Grandfather contracted Turberculosis.
At that point in time - there wasn't much hope with those who caught TB.
They started running campaigns around the time my G-Grandparents caught TB. These are from Chicago.
This one from Virgina .... (I couldn't find anything from WI, and I tried!)
There are hospitals that were opened just for those with TB.
Like Waverly Hills Sanatorium ( and another interesting link) in Louisville, KY....which I've had a big interest in since the history with my family (and my interest in ghosts)... and others like St. Agnes Sanitarium, location unknown... and I found this link of some guys exploring old abandoned structures .... this one they happened to explore a TB Hospital....
One part of the therapies would be cold air exposure.... for adults, kids, and babies. (both these were taken from the websites linked in the paragraph above. Top one from the extra Waverly link, the other from the St. Agnes one.)
There were surgeries, and weird-odd experiments to try to cure... but it was a long time before there was a vaccine. (A little TB History Timeline)
So I'm not sure if Olga and William got pregnant with my Grandfather before, or after, they contracted TB. At the very least, they got it while she was pregnant as my G-Grandfather died 5 months before my Grandfather was born from it. ** Note: After talking to my Grandfather's Sister's Daughter (did you follow that?).... I found out the second date I saw for William's death was the correct one and he dided November 2nd 1921 ... not Feb 2 .... so he died when my Grandfather was almost 4 months old)** Olga thought she was dying so she gave my Grandfather up right away (it seems).... we know he was adopted by William's sister and her husband when he was an infant.
After my Grandfather was born, Olga met a man, Palmer Larson, and married him. This is their wedding picture.
Here she is (in the middle) with her sister and a friend & dog infront of her Dad's Saloon ...
There was also a post card that was found, that was sent to her and her mother....
Back of postcard sent by Mable (Johnson) Uschan to her mother Theodora and sister Olga. It's Addressed: To Olga and Mamma .... It says: Hello Mamma. How are you? I am fine. Me and Mrs. Brooks was out riding yesterday all over Chippewa and in the park too, we hitch up and go whenever we want to and have a good time. I inclose with Best Wishes From Mable Johnson. Answer soon.
And when she passed away ....
She was buried in Mondovi ... between her Mother and her Sister Mabel....
Olga is the little girl in the middle infront of her homestead with: her father, Iver Johnson (Iver Janson Veum), her brother: Albert Johnson, and on the other side of her, mother, Theodora (Christopherson) Johnson, and sister Mabel (Johnson) Uschan in front of their house that use to be on their farmin Mondovi, WI.
I know she and my Great Grandfather, William Thalacker, married July 19, 1919 ... only a few months before baby Irene came into the world on October 13, 1919. (Shotgun-Wedding anyone?)
I know that at some point both her and my G-Grandfather contracted Turberculosis.
At that point in time - there wasn't much hope with those who caught TB.
They started running campaigns around the time my G-Grandparents caught TB. These are from Chicago.
This one from Virgina .... (I couldn't find anything from WI, and I tried!)
There are hospitals that were opened just for those with TB.
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| Waverly Hills Sanatorium, Louisville, KY |
Like Waverly Hills Sanatorium ( and another interesting link) in Louisville, KY....which I've had a big interest in since the history with my family (and my interest in ghosts)... and others like St. Agnes Sanitarium, location unknown... and I found this link of some guys exploring old abandoned structures .... this one they happened to explore a TB Hospital....
One part of the therapies would be cold air exposure.... for adults, kids, and babies. (both these were taken from the websites linked in the paragraph above. Top one from the extra Waverly link, the other from the St. Agnes one.)
There were surgeries, and weird-odd experiments to try to cure... but it was a long time before there was a vaccine. (A little TB History Timeline)
So I'm not sure if Olga and William got pregnant with my Grandfather before, or after, they contracted TB. At the very least, they got it while she was pregnant as my G-Grandfather died 5 months before my Grandfather was born from it. ** Note: After talking to my Grandfather's Sister's Daughter (did you follow that?).... I found out the second date I saw for William's death was the correct one and he dided November 2nd 1921 ... not Feb 2 .... so he died when my Grandfather was almost 4 months old)** Olga thought she was dying so she gave my Grandfather up right away (it seems).... we know he was adopted by William's sister and her husband when he was an infant.
After my Grandfather was born, Olga met a man, Palmer Larson, and married him. This is their wedding picture.
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| Olga (Johnson) Thalacker Larson and her 2nd husband Palmer Larson's wedding. From left: Olga's brother, Albert Johnson, Palmer Larson, Olga, and an unknown lady |
Here she is (in the middle) with her sister and a friend & dog infront of her Dad's Saloon ...
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| Mabel (Johnson) Uschan, Olga (Johnson) Thalacker Larson, and unknown lady and dog by Iver's Saloon, Mondovi, WI |
Back of postcard sent by Mable (Johnson) Uschan to her mother Theodora and sister Olga. It's Addressed: To Olga and Mamma .... It says: Hello Mamma. How are you? I am fine. Me and Mrs. Brooks was out riding yesterday all over Chippewa and in the park too, we hitch up and go whenever we want to and have a good time. I inclose with Best Wishes From Mable Johnson. Answer soon.
And when she passed away ....
She was buried in Mondovi ... between her Mother and her Sister Mabel....
Sunday, May 6, 2012
My Roots are Interesting.....
So I have always been interested in my heritage. I grew up believing I was mostly Irish. Found out, I'm mostly Norwegian, then Irish.... then German .... with some Holland Dutch, Swiss, and various other Northern European in me. I have been drawn to Ireland since I was little, so I found it slightly disappointing I wasn't as Irish on one side as I thought....
See. My Grandfather was my "Daddy" ... in ways. My Dad didn't get to raise me - through circumstances beyond his control. My Mom wanted us to stay with family, and he was a Navy man. He got a divorce from his first wife, and met my mom - they had their relationship - he joined the Navy.... came home on leave, saw my mom .... had to go back and my mom found out she was pregnant. By then he was being stationed and assigned.... and he met his current wife. Don't get me wrong, I love my Dad, my Step-Mom and my siblings that I didn't get to grow up with .... but my Grandpa ... he was the first love of my life.
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| (My Mom hiding) Grandpa and I. <3 |
My mom just rolled her eyes and pulled out my baby book and said .... See - this was you when you were born.
Um........ really? That's me ....
With lead to a whole new conspiracy theory ... I WAS SWITCHED AT BIRTH!!!! That baby is too dark, and black hair? No way is that me. Did you see the picture above that? I was about a year old.... ghostly pale skin, blonde.... really? No way...
Well, I've come to accept it ... that is me .... trust me, I gave birth to that 32 years later....
My little Mini-Me.
Regardless. After I moved on from that theroy .... I moved onto greater pastures. MOMMY WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE A BABY???? I WANT A BROTHER OR SISTER!! Oh Lordy, I had some spunk didn't I?
My Mom got in contact with my Dad and Step-Mom. Found out I had a baby brother who was 3 years old (to my 5 yeas old) ... and we got to meet! First time I met my Daddy was when I was 5.
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| My Mom, Me (age 5), Dad, My Brother (age 3), & My Step-Mom |
My Dad and I had a distant but ... I think.... great relationship. One reason being any anger I had, was my issue - not his. I knew he was doing the best he could. I knew my sisters blamed him for a lot. My Grandparents (his parents) didn't even want to see me because I was the illegitimate mistake that happened between his marriages. I was.... am.... the bastard child.
So what, I embrace it.... I mean really. I know all parties involved were just doing what they felt was right. They did the best they could. Why hold onto such things and let them define you when only YOU can define you. And my Dad really puts a lot of blame onto himself, and I don't think it's necessary .... I KNOW he did the best he could. That's fine. I'm good with what I got :) It's better then what a lot of kids get.... all I needed to know was he loves me :) And I do know that.
Regardless... it's not the way I wanted to be defined. So I would suck up any attention I got from my Dad and love it. We would talk on the phone, write.... etc. I think - today - we have a great relationship. It's not ideal but I love him dearly. I love my step-mom and she has embraced me as her own in ways. It's much the same way I feel about the Princess. I may not have gotten the honor to meet my step-daughter yet - but I love her. She's part of our family - the boys know about her, she's not referred to as the "step-sister" or "half-sister" but their SISTER. Period.
I always wish I was closer to my siblings. I always longed for that sister relationship. SO I seek it out with my best friends.
Anyway - back to my Grandpa.... I got off on a wild tangent there.
So .... originally I thought the following.
My Grandfather was adopted. - TRUE.... he was adopted by his Father's sister .... so why?
Well, I thought (had been told) that my Grandpa's parents died when he was a baby. also TRUE.... Only I thought his Mom died first and then his Dad. I knew that - at least - his Mom died of Tuberculosis ... and I suspected that his Dad did too. Upon some research (mostly done by another family member - thank you Dawn!) .... I found out this was untrue. Well.... at least part of it. My Great-Grandfather died before my Granfather was even born! Yep.... he never got to meet his son.
I also found out - when I was younger - that my Grandpa had a sister, Aunt Irene.... which I thought was super cool and didn't realize until I was older that's where the relationship was to all these 2nd cousins I had (that were my age). I also found out he (my Great-Grandfather) was married before to a Hattie M. GUELDNER - who was born in 1887 and they had a daughter they named Marion, I don't know much about Hattie, I can't find any info on her. I'm not sure if she died and that's why my Great Grandfather remarried or what... but it's interesting. Oh I do know she was born in Nebraska and her father was born in Wisconsin and mother was born in Iowa ..... but that's it. I'd like to know more.
Anyway - My Grandpa was born 5 July 1921 and my Great-Grandfather William died 2 Feb 1921 ** Note: After talking to my Grandfather's Sister's Daughter (did you follow that?).... I found out the second date I saw for William's death was the correct one and he dided November 2nd 1921 ... not Feb 2 .... so he died when my Grandfather was almost 4 months old)** of Turberculosis.... my Great-Grandmother Olga also had it..... (huh, I put together he died on my Mom's birthday......) Well into the pregnancy, but not even close to when he was born. Aunt Irene was only about 16 months old.
So after my Grandfather was born, my Aunt Irene was given to one of Olga's relatives and my Grandfather to my Great-Grandfather's sister.... Louisa and her husband Gail. They raised my Grandpa since he was a baby.... My Great-Grandmother Olga thought she was dying of Tuberculosis, so she gave my grandfather up right away, and his sister. My Great-Grandmother ended up living a few more years. She got re-married in 1923 and ended up dying from Tuberculosis on November 14, 1924.
So my Grandfather was adopted and raised by his aunt and uncle. I knew this growing up (might have heard some facts wrong) but ..... I was really interested in his biological parents, of course... because that's where the heritage comes from. I found out the Irish I thought existed with him - didn't. William was German (and upon reading more into the Thalacker side, which is going to be next to impossible to find out about - is also most likely Swiss.) And Olga is - of course - 100% Norwegian.
We had never seen pictures of William or Olga (at least I didn't) growing up. Now - thanks to a website called Find A Grave, I saw my Great-Grandfather William for the first time.
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| William F. Thalacker 1882-1921 - My Great-Grandfather ... |
And then today - I saw my Great-Grandmother Olga for the first time. My (cousin whatever removed) Dawn shared these pictures today ..... the pictures she sent were orange - so I did the best I could to bring out some detail and more appealing....
Great-Grandma Olga is the little girl smack dab in the middle.
and then it dawned on me why I couldn't find her grave - since I had completely forgotten that she had remarried the year before she died. So I managed to find that - also. Dawn confirmed this is her gravestone. Olga Johnson (Thalacker/Larson)
Which I realize she also has a picture of...
And Dawn said she was going to try and locate some of the older pictures of Olga she has. So I'm really excited to see those too.
I think I may need to create a Genealogy Blog since I'm finding a lot of neat stuff. And - I'm doing my ex-husband's line also - so that my older two kids know their heritage on his side. (Not to mention Calahan is learning about it in school and super interested in his German side right now)....
For example: I found out that my older two boys are the direct decedents of King Henry III of England, King Edward the I of England, King Edward the II of England, and King Edward the III of England.... (Some of these Kings were also entitled "Lord of Ireland" also) a ton of other nobility and a few other kids (and more I haven't uncovered) .... including a French King ...
Yep, I think it's time to create another blog to my collection....
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